I have been researching for two days now and have looked at thousands of pictures. My head is throbbing. I also consulted two people to help me, and it looks like they may be having trouble identifying it too. This one is tough.
So far, all I know is it is a Celery Vase. Looked at 10,000 plus photo’s now…only one found at eBay and it is a mess.
In all the ones I’ve looked at- this vase is so unique, in shape and in pattern, as it contains five different patterns [URL removed]
- Diamond Cut Swags
- etched flowers (like a Tudor Rose)…frosted and depressed.
- scalloped top and base edges.
- Beveled around the bottom edge, above the pedestal.
- Stretched Thumbprints all around the edges.
It stands on a beautiful beveled pedestal.
It stands 10.25 inches tall 5 inches wide at top
It is heavy, weighs nearly 3 pounds.
Diamond points protrude, rather than being indented.
It rings when you snap it. It sparkles like Crystal. There are some tiny bubble here and there in the glass, but you need a magnifying glass to see them. It is possible there is a seam, but may be covered with the different facet of the decorations. A few of the bevels are very sharp.
This vase is possibly very Rare so I hesitate to list it without knowing exactly what it is and who the manufacturer was. I enjoy researching, but two days on the same piece being done by three people is wearing on me, and I’m sure them too.
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Thank you for any and all help.
Your opinions are greatly appreciated.
MOMS~
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I have checked all the suggestions so far. The rose may also be a Primrose.
This really has me puzzled, because if it were a modern piece, there would be many on the net. But I have viewed so many vases, I would estimate close to 10,000 by now, and only one has been the same, only in very bad shape. Still looking. I’m determined to figure this out somehow.
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momspennies Reputation: 485 See momspennies' booth |
It seems not to be ‘press glass’ that’s a PLUS right there.
Yet the shape is odd…. to me.
If you are sure it’s cut glass, price it accordingly.
You know, if it has a seam anywhere… well, personally I would give it a kick… you know where.
The shape really throws me off.
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EuropeanGoodies Reputation: 1165 See EuropeanGoodies' booth |
I have to agree with Hodge Podge, it looks like modern European cut glass to me. The older American Brilliant Cut items just don’t look like that. They are (usually) really busy and have a lot of visual weight, this is a little more sparse in design.
If you have a jewelers loupe, take a look at the cut edges. If it is an older piece you can usually find tool marks. The new stuff is chemically polished and won’t have any. The bubbles in the glass kind of bother me. You may want to look at some of the better EAPG makers designs just to be on the safe side. The really good EAPG can be hard to see the difference and I have seen EAPG with no mold marks. If you have a UV light look at it under that. If it has a blue/purple cast it has a high lead content and is most certainly Cut Glass. If it is greenish it is soda glass and probably just very good EAPG.
The only two modern Cut Glass makers that I can think of doing anything similar to this would be St Louis or Val St. Lambert. They seem to recycle the old patterns more often than other makers. And even then it was probably made sometime between 1950 and 1980. The really modern clear cut glass is rather plain.
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PhoenixResale Reputation: 219 See PhoenixResale's booth |
Marianna,
I had someone with some glass knowledge look at this…They think its contemporary, possibly european.
They said that the style of it does not look vintage/victorian/eapg.
Forgot to say, they could not offer an actual manufacturer.
Of course, wait for some other peeps here for their input!
AND your pics are very nice!!!
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HodgePodgeLodge Reputation: 104 See HodgePodgeLodge's booth |
Thank you Carol….I am wondering if its not American as well. The Tudor Rose is what I think makes it seem British.
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momspennies Reputation: 485 See momspennies' booth |
I love glass but am no expert. There is a look to old glass that is different than modern. Lovely pictures and lovely item. Hope you get it figured out.
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johngermaine Reputation: 576 See johngermaine's booth |
I’m no glass expert either, but have to say it does look European, particularly British. Have you tried researching European glass makers? As for the age, it’s hard to say. I can see it being a vintage piece, but there are aspects that look too modern.
Have you asked European Goodies? I know her specialty is ivory, but her collecting experience might help. Either way, I hope you’ll be able to get it figured out soon. Two days is a long time to do research for one item. LOL
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purpleiris Reputation: 23 See purpleiris' booth |
Appears to be an American Brilliant Cut Glass and many many of the patterns have never been identified………..
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wygmngal Reputation: 30 See wygmngal's booth |
The bubbles are so tiny, they are like pinpoints and there might only be 4 or five. I know they are bubbles because I rum my nail across them and they are raised. I looked at another 1000 vases or so today and still can’t find anything like it except for the one on eBay that’s a mess. They didn’t identify it either. This afternoon, I sent a note to Replacements curators to see if they can identify it. I’m a stickler when it comes to details, especially on something I think is better than average and collectible. Oh and sorry, this is Moms again.
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BonanzaMarianna Reputation: 14 See BonanzaMarianna's booth |
I’m not a glass expert, but the flower cutting looks modern to me. Try checking companies like Godinger, or Fifth Avenue. They’ve been producing some lovely pieces based on older designs. This is a beautiful piece; good luck with it!
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lovelylittlethings Reputation: 62 See lovelylittlethings' booth |
Feebay #150601453053 Same but not identified
" #130420386755 Different but feels like same family
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TheHotAttic Reputation: 133 See TheHotAttic's booth |
It looks like an antique. I had an aunt buy something like this at an antique store, especially since the craftmanship is not modern when it comes to the seems.
I would start there.
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Celebritystyles Reputation: 12 See Celebritystyles' booth |
Im no expert either, I believe the vase to be made by a German maker by the name of Olbernhauer because of its shape. If not that company, since there are several in the region, then I would almost bet it came from Germany. Since it is extremely hard to determine age from a pic, one can look for some tale tale signs of this, wear, thickness, seam marks..
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AncientSisters Reputation: 14 See AncientSisters' booth |
American glass in the last half century has favored flat based pieces, as opposed to the footed vase you have here. I would lend my agreement to those who place it as modern or post modern European. This much fine detail work for an older piece would be amazingly valuable because of the enormous about of time and skill involved to do something like this by hand, or with minimal technology. My best guess is post modern European (as in within the last 40 years) If you are looking to sell it, i would suggest you sell it on its compositional merits, as opposed to crossing your eyes looking for a brand or known maker. Even if you do get lucky and find one, your only proof to your claim would be an internet link.
~John
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johncraftstreasures Reputation: 172 See johncraftstreasures' booth |
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